Wie weet?

Alles over de sleep en duwvaart op zee en op de binnenwateren
Jan van der Doe
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Re: Wie weet?

Bericht door Jan van der Doe » 03 feb 2018 17.20 17:57

Dank je wel Geert om het allemaal te vinden.
In boeken over de scheepvaart (CPR) e.a. aan de Canadese westkust wordt deze boot
niet genoemd.
Wel de radersleepbot "BEAVER", maar die was van The Hudson Bay Company.

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Jaap Bijl
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Re: Wie weet?

Bericht door Jaap Bijl » 05 feb 2018 17.20 08:48

De BEAVER heeft inderdaad nooit in Canada gevaren.
Deze tekst ontving ik van een Britse correspondent:


No, BEAVER never went to Canada.

The context is that Elder Dempster Line (Alfred Lewis Jones) had a major passenger/mail/freight service between Liverpool and eastern Canada under the name Beaver Line (they were second only to the dominant Allan Line), and had in 1901 established their own towage operation at Liverpool - Mersey Towing Co Ltd. CPR long planned to run such services, but to feed their railway and be able to offer land-bridge service to Japan and Hong Kong (they had established those links from Vancouver some time earlier. In 1903 CPR succeeded in purchasing Beaver Line and its ships, and along with that came the Mersey Towing Co business. While the transtlantic ships which had been owned by Alfred Jones and various partners were transferred to the direct ownership of CPR, the tugs (including BEAVER) continued to be owned by Mersey Towing, which I assume became a subsidiary of CPR.

Later, in 1915, CPR demerged the North Atlantic operations (which by then were huge as they had secretly acquired Allan Line in 1906) into Canadian Pacific Ocean Services Ltd, though CPR remained the registered owner of the transatlantic ships. There was no change however in Mersey Towing, though it might well have become a subsidiary of CPOS.

Only two Mersey Towing tugs, GOPHER and MUSQUASH, crossed the Atlantic to Canada. They went in 1914 to work for Quebec Salvage & Wrecking Co, in which CPR were partners.


Groet,
Jaap.

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Re: Wie weet?

Bericht door Jan van der Doe » 05 feb 2018 17.20 18:02

Dank je wel Jaap voor het plaatsen.

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Tom
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Re: Wie weet?

Bericht door Tom » 12 feb 2018 17.20 11:07

Wie weet wat ze gaan doen met de Varnebank ex Pallas



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